In a recent episode of ‘Hard Fork’ podcast, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and former OpenAI researcher Daniel Kokotajlo delve into Canada’s AI initiatives and internal challenges at OpenAI, shedding light on the quest for AI leadership and the ethics of whistle-blowing.
A Conversation with Justin Trudeau and OpenAI Whistle-Blower
On June 7, 2024, the podcast “Hard Fork,” hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton, featured an episode with notable guests: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada and Daniel Kokotajlo, a former researcher in OpenAI’s governance division.
During the episode, Trudeau discussed Canada’s strategic initiatives to become a leader in artificial intelligence (A.I.). Daniel Kokotajlo provided insights into the internal environment at OpenAI, explaining why he chose to sacrifice nearly $2 million in equity to expose what he described as a “reckless” culture within the organization.
The episode was produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones, with engineering by Alyssa Moxley. The podcast includes original music by Dan Powell, Marion Lozano, Diane Wong, and Pat McCusker.
Listeners can access “Hard Fork” on multiple platforms including Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and YouTube.
